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raveydavey
David Batty
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 Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: Lager with widgets. |
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Regular readers will know I'm a bitter man, but have you noticed you can now get lager with a widget in the can - like you've been able to do with "smooth" bitter for ages?
Fosters and Kronenbourg, two exotic foreign sounding tipples brewed in Tadcaster under licence are the first two brands to take the plunge.
Apparently the "smaller bubbles" make for a smoother drink.
Having tried the Kronenbourg, I have to say that I'm less than impressed - the standard stuff seems better to me... |
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cardboardbox?Youwerelucky
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Garp
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In the name of science   |
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halfaperson
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| Someone did once ask the way to Cockfosters, now we know
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30 Mill
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FOR GODS SAKE DONT DRINK FOSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Garp
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Lager with widgets.......Whatever next? Aussies with brains? (one for you Glenn ) |
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30 Mill
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Or an England Football team in Euro 2008???
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Baldy
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wewantourdarbyback
David Batty
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ArmleyWhite
Allan Clarke
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Fosters aint the best, I agree, but it certainly aint the worst either! Anyone for Skol?? No thought not 
As for widgets in cans, hate em with a passion. Just another gimmick fooling the kids to believe their drinking the real deal, imho! Same as the "extra cold" shite on sale! the extra cold just seems a sales gimmick to reduce quality, but if it's as cold as possible you won't be able to taste the reduction in quality.
A well looked after hand pulled pint of Tetleys is 100% far superior to the "extra smooth" bolox being sold!
Go for the good stuff, even if it does cost a tad more! |
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cardboardbox?Youwerelucky
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ArmleyWhite
Allan Clarke
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| cardboardbox?Youwerelucky wrote: | Just get one of those Carslberg pouring systems (beer dispensers or whatever the fuck they are called  ) - absolutely un believeable - my brother has one and it pours exactly the same as a pint in the pub - superbly chilled, smooth...... (*sits back in chair and does homer simpson thinking about duff beer impression argurugrugrgru.....with tongue hanging out) |
Yeah, but those things are just the same asa big can aint they, just more in it. Nowt buggered about with in terms of extra fizz / smooth or whatever! I think their a tad expensive, but thats the only reason I wouldn't buy one! |
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Benlufc
Jack Charlton
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: Re: Lager with widgets. |
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[quote="raveydavey"]
Apparently the "smaller bubbles" make for a smoother drink.
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for the budwiser pansies then ?
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Baldy
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cardboardbox?Youwerelucky
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raveydavey
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From Wikipedia:
A can of beer is pressurised by adding liquid nitrogen, which vaporises and expands in volume after the can is sealed, forcing gas and beer into the widget's hollow interior through a tiny hole—the less beer the better for subsequent head quality. In addition, some nitrogen dissolves in the beer which also contains dissolved carbon dioxide.
The presence of dissolved nitrogen allows smaller bubbles to be formed with consequent greater creaminess of the subsequent head. This is because the smaller bubbles need a higher internal pressure to balance the greater surface tension, which is inversely proportional to the radius of the bubbles. Achieving this higher pressure is not possible just with dissolved carbon dioxide because of the greater solubility of this gas compared to nitrogen would create an unacceptably large head.
When the can is opened, the pressure in the can quickly drops, causing the pressurised gas and beer inside the widget to jet out from the hole. This agitation on the surrounding beer causes a chain reaction of bubble formation throughout the beer. The result, when the can is then poured out, is a surging mixture in the glass of very small gas bubbles and liquid.
This is the case with certain types of draught beer such as draught stouts. In the case of these draught beers, which before dispensing also contain a mixture of dissolved nitrogen and carbon dioxide, the agitation is caused by forcing the beer under pressure through small holes in a restrictor in the tap. The surging mixture gradually settles to produce a very creamy head.
Full article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widget_%28beer%29
Can't say I'm impressed with it and I don't like "smooth" (or "dead") beer either. Give me a decent pint of proper bitter any day (Taylors Landlord, Abbot Ale, Black Sheep, etc) |
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Garp
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| 30 Mill wrote: | | Or an England Football team in Euro 2008??? |
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30 Mill
Allan Clarke
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I tried that Heini shit beer dispenser and found out that the dispenser itself was by far the best thing about the whole idea - Disgusting beer - NO, its wrong to even call it beer - Disgusting shite
We're in a drought here, and I decided agaisnt watering to lawn with it in case the ground became toxic
Please delete photo above - causing unctrolled shuddering here
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| Sorry Boxy, I didn't realise you were on about the expensive one, I thought you were on about the keg. |
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