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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:58 pm    Post subject: Harry? Reply with quote

what? Is no-one talking about Harry? Trust the yanks to open their gob!

He's a soldier, he was always gonna be a soldier and as such should do a soldiers job.

For once I applaud the british media for their part in this.

Que - all the stories on telly and in the press now! That bit will be boring after all.....(see line 2)


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Harry? Reply with quote

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He's a soldier, he was always gonna be a soldier and as such should do a soldiers job.



So whats to discuss?   Razz



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yanks spilled the beans, over here they are saying that it was the Australian Womans Day magazine  Confused


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yanks spilled the beans, over here they are saying that it was the Australian Womans Day magazine  Confused


That is the Aus Army mag right?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nlag wrote:
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Yanks spilled the beans, over here they are saying that it was the Australian Womans Day magazine  Confused


That is the Aus Army mag right?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway....Back on topic.....He is in the army which I assume means that in times of conflict, he will go to places where he might get shot at. Far be it for the media to give 2 flying fucks about the well being of our troops in search of a front page story. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nlag wrote:
Anyway....Back on topic.....He is in the army which I assume means that in times of conflict, he will go to places where he might get shot at. Far be it for the media to give 2 flying fucks about the well being of our troops in search of a front page story. Rolling Eyes


What I found more surprising is that he's the first royal of any note to be on the front line since Queen Victoria's Grandson in 1915....

(I guess the article meant "front line" in an Army sense, as opposed to Prince Andrew acting as exocet bait in 1982?)



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that confused me to, those who said he was the first for a long time.

For once the british media acted impecably by keeping their traps shut when asked, until the fuggin Yanks sound out



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly, what would have happened to our 'special relationship' had he been caught if 'friendly fire' from the yanks?!

Presumably the yanks were informed where he was at ALL times!  Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Interestingly, what would have happened to our 'special relationship' had he been caught if 'friendly fire' from the yanks?!

Presumably the yanks were informed where he was at ALL times!  Rolling Eyes


At the risk of going slightly OT (!), if anyone saw the Ross Kemp in Afganistan series, the British ground troops were very defensive of an American pilot who'd mistakenly killed one of their colleagues and injured others in a friendly fire incident.
Whilst mouring their losses, they also accepted that it was one of the risks of war and pointed out that other fast jet bombing runs had actually saved dozens of British troops lives. Essentially they were grateful that the Americans were at least putting their asses on the line and doing their bit - which is a damn sight more than many of our so called allies....



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raveydavey wrote:
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Interestingly, what would have happened to our 'special relationship' had he been caught if 'friendly fire' from the yanks?!

Presumably the yanks were informed where he was at ALL times!  Rolling Eyes


At the risk of going slightly OT (!), if anyone saw the Ross Kemp in Afganistan series, the British ground troops were very defensive of an American pilot who'd mistakenly killed one of their colleagues and injured others in a friendly fire incident.
Whilst mouring their losses, they also accepted that it was one of the risks of war and pointed out that other fast jet bombing runs had actually saved dozens of British troops lives. Essentially they were grateful that the Americans were at least putting their asses on the line and doing their bit - which is a damn sight more than many of our so called allies....


Had a talk when i was at school from a group from the RAF reg, they were very bitter about the Yanks, especially about the time they were called in to do a clean up after the yanks had stormed a town, and they had to help clear the bodies of the civilians with american bullets in them, including the young child with one in his forhead.

Whilest the USAF is the best air force in the world, their army has a long way to come to reach the standard of ours, a fact that is shown by the presence of many officers from around the world (including americans) trianing to be better by going through the basic training with new recruits at Sandhurst



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard a woman  Rolling Eyes from some magazine / website (might have been the one that broke the story) saying that it was in the interests of "freedom of information" or some bollocks - reporting on someone who would be a high profile target borders on lunacy

There would be no difference between this and reporting on a "planned" visit to Afghanastan by Bush, Brown, Rice, a.n.other high profile target including the flight paths, arrival times, destinations and times they will be visiting certain areas FFS Evil or Very Mad  Evil or Very Mad

People seem to forget that whether you are in favour or not we are fighting a fucking war over there - and highlighting potential high profile targets for the taliban should see people chucked in jail for stupiditiy - lets release all the ID's of the special forces whilst we are at it just to make their job that little bit harder  Evil or Very Mad  Evil or Very Mad



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cardboardbox?Youwerelucky wrote:
lets release all the ID's of the special forces whilst we are at it :


No need....Some lefty in the MOD will "lose" their DNA profiles and records soon anyhow.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wewantourdarbyback wrote:


Whilest the USAF is the best air force in the world,


I think you'll find that they are the second best air force in the world. The Royal Air Force remain the finest.



wewantourdarbyback wrote:

their army has a long way to come to reach the standard of ours, a fact that is shown by the presence of many officers from around the world (including americans) trianing to be better by going through the basic training with new recruits at Sandhurst  


I don't doubt that for a moment - a fact that is bourne out by the septics now adopting typically British approaches towards their strategies.
The Americans are without doubt a fine, well equipped and aggressive fighting force - it's just they don't have the finesse or training our lads do.
They also aren't trained to think for themselves in many situations unlike UK forces who are able to adapt to whatever situation they find themselves in.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry this thread is going slightly off topic but a comment regarding our forces and the american forces.....

I have a friend who served in Iraq and the difference in "kit" between the americans and the british is unbelieveable - his regiment(?) would regularly swap stuff with the americans to get a better kit. I think (from a fast fading memory) that the only thing the british had to barter with was their food rations (although I might have this the wrong way around).

And this government want to CUT defensive spending



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cardboardbox?Youwerelucky wrote:
Sorry this thread is going slightly off topic but a comment regarding our forces and the american forces.....

I have a friend who served in Iraq and the difference in "kit" between the americans and the british is unbelieveable - his regiment(?) would regularly swap stuff with the americans to get a better kit. I think (from a fast fading memory) that the only thing the british had to barter with was their food rations (although I might have this the wrong way around).

And this government want to CUT defensive spending


And that is another New Labour Scandal. Sent to war on a lie without enough kit to do the job.

The British Army are known as "The Borrowers" by the Americans for obvious reasons.

Nearly a hundred years on and it seems we still have lions led by donkeys.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an ex soldier of 10 years, I like to ask the following

What does being in Iraq or Afghanistan have to do with "defence"?



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

30 Mill wrote:


What does being in Iraq or Afghanistan have to do with "defence"?


I think the reasoning is that if you call it an "attack" budget, you lose the element of surprise.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

   

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