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eddiesleftfoot Jack Charlton

Joined: 27 May 2007 Posts: 183 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: Capello |
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I hope this will prove to be a good appointment but what a sad state of affairs again for English football that we have to look elsewhere for a manager. Suppose when you consider the possibilities the cupboard is bare...Allardyce?? Redknapp..maybe O'Neill...Irish Curbishley...Did well for Charlton but not up to it I don't think.
Still, got to admit I'm not that bothered really because, for me, club before country every time. I would have preferred to see us win the Johnstone's above England winning a trophy
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1985 Allan Clarke


Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 790 Location: Dubai
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: |
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i have been to many internationals in my time under several different managers, and not since the days of Gascoigne, Butcher, Ince, Pearce, Hoddle, Waddle, Seamen, Shearer, and a few others, do we have anyone what plays for the pride of there country no more ? No i am afraid its all about money, advertising, merchandising and buissness !!
Ive said this before and ill say it again, i always put my club before my country (Fuck the FA)
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Baldy Site Admin


Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 2196 Location: Ballina NSW
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cardboardbox?Youwerelucky Niiiiii..!!


Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 1921 Location: lincolnshire
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| 1985 wrote: | i have been to many internationals in my time under several different managers, and not since the days of Gascoigne, Butcher, Ince, Pearce, Hoddle, Waddle, Seamen, Shearer, and a few others, do we have anyone what plays for the pride of there country no more ? No i am afraid its all about money, advertising, merchandising and buissness !!
Ive said this before and ill say it again, i always put my club before my country (Fuck the FA) |
Absolutely agree with this post - no one cares for the "shirt" anymore - no matter how many times the players "say" they are proud to play for their country
On another note - the appointment of a foreign coach again - I was watching (or listening) to an ex england player the other day (can't remember who) and they said that it should be a national coach from that country (i.e. English) otherwise you might as well start having foreign forwards playing in the team as well - which when he put it like that made a lot of sense as you have a team that is supposed to represent your country by having players who are born / nationalised in that country so why not coaches?? It shouldn't matter that you can't find a "good" one you should be made to pick an English Manager_________________
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Tanhilltimmy Jack Charlton

Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 160 Location: miles from nowhere
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| No top European team has ever won a WC with a foreign coach (or at least not in my lifetime). |
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raveydavey Lucas Radebe


Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 2233 Location: Leeds Yorkshire England
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Probably the best candidate available and willing to take the job.
Still won't alter the fact the pool of players he has to select from are a bunch of lazy overpaid primadonnas with attitude problems, or simply aren't good enough.
Apparently he's insisted on appointing his own backroom staff, including the goalkeeping coach. Thats one good decision already then. |
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HarryofOz Everything Leeds Sponsor


Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 1537 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't see the problem with having a foreign coach of a national team. Sports people are only playing sport for money anyway.
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Tanhilltimmy Jack Charlton

Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 160 Location: miles from nowhere
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| HarryofOz wrote: | | I don't see the problem with having a foreign coach of a national team. Sports people are only playing sport for money anyway. |
Only the land that gave us Mercenary Mark could have that attitude..  |
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NE1 Neither Shallow Nor Sexist


Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 1610
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HarryofOz Everything Leeds Sponsor


Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 1537 Location: Sydney, Australia
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30 Mill Allan Clarke

Joined: 13 May 2007 Posts: 994 Location: We love you Melbourne
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NE1 Neither Shallow Nor Sexist


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cardboardbox?Youwerelucky Niiiiii..!!


Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 1921 Location: lincolnshire
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NE1 Neither Shallow Nor Sexist


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raveydavey Lucas Radebe


Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 2233 Location: Leeds Yorkshire England
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| NE1 wrote: | | cardboardbox?Youwerelucky wrote: | | NE1 wrote: | | 30 Mill wrote: | That would be Mercenary Mark, one of the GREAT ALL TIME LEEDS STRIKERS????!!!!???
Look much closer to your home for mercenary wasters who have fleeced LUFC - or choose Kewell  |
In all seriouness (no joking or sarcasm), was he really? I just don't view him that way.
To me he was a fat, petulant, lard-arse, lazy boy who only turned it on when he wanted to, which was a feckin shame to his talent. He is now doing the same at Toon.
I view Viduka as a man who sadly has not reached his potential. Please correct me if I am wrong, I am ready to stand corrected. |
I think Viduka was one of the best strikers Leeds United have ever had....
That said I also think he was a lazy moody twat of a player who could have been EVEN BETTER but couldn't be arsed or motivated enough to push himself.
His record at Leeds was outstanding and when he COULD be arsed he was one of the best strikers in the league |
I absolutely agree but does that make him one of the 'all time great strikers' because there is a 'but' and surely 'all time greats' shouldn't have a 'but'. |
And to be fair, Viduka had a sizeable butt, second only to Ricketts....  |
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halfaperson Allan Clarke

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 782
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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But easily ahead of Nigella though. One of the few points im totaly in agreement with Mr THT. You can throw all the stats in the world at us, his dismal failure to score when it mattered and when we needed it is as much
a contributory factor in our downfall as the goldfish.
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halfaperson Allan Clarke

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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Viduka - Leeds United took him from mini league to major league. He skulked and sulked his way through it. Yes he scored . Nothing more than should have been expected. When the chips were down he was a loser for himself and club. I would rather have Smith or Bowyer back at ER than than him.
BOT - Open ravioli with wild mushrooms.
Capello?...WGAF....Not me..
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raveydavey Lucas Radebe


Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 2233 Location: Leeds Yorkshire England
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| halfaperson wrote: | it’s a rum do when I find mesen agreeing with Paul Ince about not having an English Manager. Tragic
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I wonder who Paul Mince had in mind? Himself perhaps, the self styled "Guv'nor" and current boss of the mighty MK Dons? A player with limited talent who made up for this with an over inflated opinion of his own self importance and a stunning ability to go missing when needed (penalty shootout against the Germans in Euro'96, anyone?).
Perhap Alan Curbishley, or that nice David Moyes? FFS, McLaren only got the job because the press scared off Big Phil and the FA were desperate for an English manager after the Sven fiasco. |
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NE1 Neither Shallow Nor Sexist


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