Where is the clamour for Harman to go

nlag · Where is the clamour for Harman to go

More smoke mirrors and lies

I cannot remember in my life a government so comfortable and arrogant in its parliamentary majority, not to observe basic etiquette, let alone matters of law.

As this story unfolds it becomes more and more amazing....How on earth can one deputy leadership runner (Benn) be sufficiently clued up and honest to have turned down the veiled donation, and another candidate (Harman) accepts it with open arms? In my book, Harman has to go. It is all very well returning the money, if only life were that simple for everyone who broke rules....What message does this send out to the voters? It's OK to break the rules, so long as you don't get caught.

A cynic might believe that Abrahams was hoping to purchase an untraceable honours nomination, but I could never suggest such a thing.

Cockney White

I'll burgle someone tonight and then give it all back the day before I'm due to appear in court..see where it gets me.. Rolling Eyes

nlag

wewantourdarbyback

cardboardbox?Youwerelucky

Gopher

raveydavey

I stayed up watching the election results roll in in 1997 and genuinely felt that the country would change for the better. Mrs ravey had never bothered voting before then as she couldn't see the point but I persuaded her that she needed to take part and as a result of our actions, and those othe thousands of others like us the corrupt incompetent Tories were thrown out of office. Where we live had been a Conservative seat for as long as I can recall but it swung magnificently to Labour and we were on our way.

I now feel robbed, not just everytime I get a payslip, but when I look at the seemingly terminal decline the country is in.

Cast-iron final salary pension - gone thanks to New Labours laws
Council tax - through the roof
Immigration - out of control
Border controls - abandoned
NHS dentist - gone by the end of the year (despite his valiant efforts to hold on)
Transport - an unmitigated disaster if you live outside London
Sleaze, corruption and incompetence - reaching astounding new levels almost daily

I could go on all night. I bet that grinning idiot B-liar is p*ssing himself laughing that he got our when he did.

I will never vote Labour again while any of these chancers are in positions of authority.

Gopher

Vote for Nlag, the voice of reason and good mince pies. Cool

cardboardbox?Youwerelucky

Gopher

Thats decided then. Marjory Proops and all that. Cool

wewantourdarbyback

if all he offers is mince pies i cant vote for him... i dont like mince pies Sad

cardboardbox?Youwerelucky

nlag

I have to confess that they are not my mince pies. I found them on a rack in the kitchen, and just started eating them. I fully regret having taken this course of action. I will be returning all the mince pies that I consumed, in full. Had I have known that I was not meant to take mince pies without asking, even though there was a clear message left with the mince pies, that they were not for me, I would not have taken them.

I would have made this frank and honest statement of guilt, even if my guilt had not been uncovered by another party. I therefore assure you that my integrity is in tact, and depend upon your support.

Cockney White

Just give them back and you'll be fine.. Cool

Baldy

This thread confused me, till we started on about mince pies.. Embarassed

nlag

It was (before we got side tracked) about the Labour Party receiving illegal funding. When the story broke, all the Ministers went running for cover, each denying any knowledge. Then, surprsise surprise, stories start to leak that they were in fact fully aware that they were breaking the law in the interest of self promotion.

nlag

Gopher

Not blaming it on the black lesbian womens group for equal rights for lobsters then?? Laughing

Labour government=incompetant fuckwits
Tory government=incompetant fuckwits with posher accents
Lib dems=Incapable of managing a piss up in a brewery.

Not a lot of choice there.

wewantourdarbyback

Clarkson for PM

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/PMClarkson/

Cool

cardboardbox?Youwerelucky

Is no one else suspicious about the story of party funding breaking

Its all over the news and people are falling on their swords or being encouraged to fall on their swords when in fact the BIGGER STORY is the fact that they lost 25 MILLION PEOPLES PERSONAL DATA ON THAT FUCKING DISC

Which means that if it is in the wrong hands the ID thieves must be having a field day as not only do they have the details of adults now but they also hold the details of all the children on their which gives them enough IDs to steal as they reach 18 - so thats them sorted out for stealing identities for at least the next 18 years - NICE ONE YOU FUCKWITS

How much do you think I would have been fined by the Information Commissioner had I lost all my clients details?????

I seem to remember a bank getting fined earlier in the year (£1 million?) for having confidential waste sat in bags awaiting collection - how many clients would that have been 10,000 (if that) and what happens to this fucking government - JACK SHIT - instead they bury the story under another "alleged" BIG STORY when actually who gives a flying fuck who funds who - yes they have their own "laws" but 25 million bits of important lost data is FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR more important than some North Eastern Builder giveing them a few quid

(unless of course his planning permission goes through a tocuh quicker than everyone elses Rolling Eyes

)

Wankers the lot of them and another example of how labour use everything they can to reduce the level of flak they get

nlag

The ID story will run and run, the opposition won't let it rest, unless the disks are found.

Two of my kids are under 18, but old enough to pick up on the news. D2 was asking me about it, and what criminals could potentially use the data for. I didn't over elaborate, but she was none the less concerned. It is potentially very bad news for a lot of youngsters. The story is being under played at the moment.

halfaperson

Well there is a clamor (going back to the original post Wink

). Here for instance.

The thing is though, as the article outlines, Harriet Harman has a lot of questions to answer and until they are asked and answered in a proper environment how can the facts be established. Peter Watt has already thrown himself onto his sword to give the public the scapegoat they so desperately want. Once The Electoral Commission has investigated whether the donations breached the Political Parties and Referendums Act 2000 and the Crown Prosecution Service has been informed maybe Harman will as well. We’ll have to wait for justice to take its course, sorry if its inconvenient for people to wait for justice.

One of the great things about living in a democracy is that peoples lives are not ruined or thrown into chaos by a lynch mob mentality. This psychotic obsession the public have and the media (or are they the same thing) about sacking people when mistakes are made makes me sick actually. I can tell you if I got sacked every time I made one they’d be no lufc season ticket for me. I have no political axe to grind on this particular subject. It’s the same with football managers, Chief of police, a company director or a teacher who happens to be at the head of a tree where a fuck up has been made. This clamoring for their head is the mark of a sick society.

nlag

In most situation Halfa', I would agree with you. However, when a political party, any political party, is so blatantly latent in releasing information, forgetful in publicising what are really quite major events and careless in the way that they manage major departments, then heads should roll. Let's not forget that Blair and Brown sculpted an election victory and ruined political and public careers in their own interests. Does it make it right? Perhaps not....Do I care? No....Live by the sword, die by the sword.

wewantourdarbyback

I dont support the Labour party at all, but the issue meant that our PM was ripped apart in Prime Ministers questions today, so surely to retain what little integrity that the party that governs our country has someone has to be held accountable for the comedy of errors thats occured since September

cardboardbox?Youwerelucky

raveydavey

nlag

raveydavey

nlag

A long time till the next election, and the voting public have short memories. Don't get me wrong, I want this lot out. The most corrupt thieving lying cynical government in my time, but I reckon they will survive.

cardboardbox?Youwerelucky

raveydavey

Brown isn't a happy bunny and this is undoubtedly not the Premiership he hoped for, but I can guarantee you he'll not give it up.
If that means hanging on for grim death for another two and a half years then he will.

Cockney White