Scum in society

Garp · Scum in society

Not having a pop at RC. This is endemic in society. This breed of scum are still out there living normal lives and mixing with people who would not dream of such vile physical and mental abuse. They need to be exposed and neutralised.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8059826.stm

raveydavey

There can be no justification for these horrors at all. It's enough to make a jaded old cynic weep.

ArmleyWhite

All forms of organsied religion is rife with abuse of one kind or another.

cardboardbox?Youwerelucky

Sorry but this is just fucking sick and actually makes me sick to my stomach

This is almost worse than regular scum kiddie fiddlers in respect of what and who these people are supposed to represent. Seriously, these people are supposed to be representing God, and the power of religion (as a person with a catholic education) is that when someone who represents the church asks you to do something - you don't even hesitate for a second as your have complete and utter respect for them.

I hope there really is a hell and I hope for all eternity these cnuts souls are tortured over and over again - fucking despicable by those that committed and those that turned a blind eye

Evil or Very Mad

30 Mill

Say what you like about paedophiles, but you know they're going to slow down at school crossings

Embarassed

Sorry

halfaperson

Why cant we have a pop at RC? Suppressing absolutely normal sexual urges in the name of God is bound to create tensions and frustrations that will come out in anyway they can even in these most vile ways. If that is having a non pc disrespectful pop then chuff to it, the world has lost it completely.

ArmleyWhite

Garp

ArmleyWhite

I don't like any religion, it just fucks people up!

Garp

Maybe so Simon, but this is a problem within society whereby 25% of young people are exposed to abuse. It is not a problem soley accountable to religious institutions.

Garp

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/200906...-gang-sex-assault-ho-45dbed5.html

It is happening in every city, every town, every day.....25%.....1 in 4.....lives ruined before adulthood......and society turns its back, families cover it up, institutions are the tip of the iceberg.

ArmleyWhite

halfaperson

Its not so much the RC im thinking we should have a pot at (some of my best friends are RC Laughing

). It’s the fact that we all seem so frightened to raise questions about any religion in case some people are offended. I find that oppressively repulsive. If we can’t question the ethics of religion, any religion, without persecution we have lost the plot completely. This applies to Christians questioning the jewish faith, muslims questioning the Christian faith and vice versa.

People should be secure in their faith and understand the basic human inquisitiveness about the world we live in. This sort of questioning should never ever be discouraged; if it is then we become a nazi state.

I’ve got my own beliefs on things spiritual and religious and I aren’t going to bore the forum with those. Suffice it to say they aren’t of the atheist persuasion. These beliefs certainly do not belittle or ridicule anyone for having them. In this particular case I think the RC has a very fundamental question to answer about the repression of normal, even god given urges. I haven’t heard any sensible argument for enforced celibacy and that includes those three RC PR comedians on Johnny Ross Friday night. While we’re at it I want the case for not using condoms in Africa explained as well because as far as I can see that is probably the single most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in the guise of religion.

Garp

People should be accepting and accepted for their spritual beliefs, so long as they are not harmful to others. I have my beliefs, I respect those of others, but do not condone harming people in their beliefs or because of their beliefs.

In my opinion, it is wrong of a church to impose celibacy, and to impose the non use of contraception. If someone can explain to me why this is God given case, I would be prepared to consider.

Innit

ArmleyWhite

Celibacy was introduced to the priests to stop the claims upon the church for illegitimate children that were being born. I have no problem with peoples faith, just that forced faith by rule of fear disgusts me, by any religion!!

I don't believe in certain things, yet I do in others. I follow my rules of decency towards others as was taught by my parents etc. IF there is an omnipotent god that I will have to answer things to on my death, then so be it. There are many things I am ashamed of in my life, not least of all the deaths of others. Maybe the images I live with daily are the hell I must endure?? Maybe the constant thoughts of pills and vodka are my pennance? Maybe the fact I can never take fro granted the very simple things in life without morose thoughts are the purgatory I have to live my life in. I find no solace in the church, I find no solace in a deity that I have to have 100% faith in, without question, to give comfort. I have ultimate faith in my family and for those is the reason I don't pop all the pills in one go. That 12 year old kid that hangs on my every word is my faith. The one that needs me to fix his bike, to teach him skills in the woods, that picks him up from school when it's pissing down etc. Thats my faith.

Still, I'm babling now. Treat each other with respect and many of the worlds problems would end, but greed and power just keep getting in the way and fukcing it all up.

Sorry, rant over!!

Garp

Many "believers" have constant questions and doubts. It does not make them any more or less faithful. Man was born with a brain, and thought processing ability, and free will.