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raveydavey

Lager with widgets.

Regular readers will know I'm a bitter man, but have you noticed you can now get lager with a widget in the can - like you've been able to do with "smooth" bitter for ages?

Fosters and Kronenbourg, two exotic foreign sounding tipples brewed in Tadcaster under licence are the first two brands to take the plunge.

Apparently the "smaller bubbles" make for a smoother drink.
Having tried the Kronenbourg, I have to say that I'm less than impressed - the standard stuff seems better to me...
cardboardbox?Youwerelucky

I shall give them all a try  
Garp

In the name of science Wink  Very Happy
halfaperson

Someone did once ask the way to Cockfosters, now we know
30 Mill

FOR GODS SAKE DONT DRINK FOSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Garp

Lager with widgets.......Whatever next? Aussies with brains? Very Happy (one for you Glenn Very Happy )
30 Mill

Or an England Football team in Euro 2008???
Baldy

Garp wrote:
Lager with widgets.......Whatever next? Aussies with brains? Very Happy (one for you Glenn Very Happy )


I misread the bloody title of this thread, I thought what the hells he on about drinking Lager with Midgets for.
And 30 Mill, an England team playing in Euro Champioship.    never happen again in our lifetime..
wewantourdarbyback

halfaperson wrote:
Someone did once ask the way to Cockfosters, now we know
 

thought about trying it... remembered Fosters aint the best, decided against it... Its a mini adventure
ArmleyWhite

Fosters aint the best, I agree, but it certainly aint the worst either!  Anyone for Skol??  No thought not Laughing  

As for widgets in cans, hate em with a passion.  Just another gimmick fooling the kids to believe their drinking the real deal, imho!  Same as the "extra cold" shite on sale!  the extra cold just seems a sales gimmick to reduce quality, but if it's as cold as possible you won't be able to taste the reduction in quality.

A well looked after hand pulled pint of Tetleys is 100% far superior to the "extra smooth" bolox being sold!  

Go for the good stuff, even if it does cost a tad more!
cardboardbox?Youwerelucky

Just get one of those Carslberg pouring systems (beer dispensers or whatever the fuck they are called  Twisted Evil ) - absolutely un believeable - my brother has one and it pours exactly the same as a pint in the pub - superbly chilled, smooth...... (*sits back in chair and does homer simpson thinking about duff beer impression argurugrugrgru.....with tongue hanging out)
ArmleyWhite

cardboardbox?Youwerelucky wrote:
Just get one of those Carslberg pouring systems (beer dispensers or whatever the fuck they are called  Twisted Evil ) - absolutely un believeable - my brother has one and it pours exactly the same as a pint in the pub - superbly chilled, smooth...... (*sits back in chair and does homer simpson thinking about duff beer impression argurugrugrgru.....with tongue hanging out)


Yeah, but those things are just the same asa big can aint they, just more in it.  Nowt buggered about with in terms of extra fizz / smooth or whatever!  I think their a tad expensive, but thats the only reason I wouldn't buy one!
Benlufc

Re: Lager with widgets.

[quote="raveydavey"]

Apparently the "smaller bubbles" make for a smoother drink.
quote]

for the budwiser pansies then ?
Baldy

Is somone gonna explain what the hell these widget things are, never heard of em here  Confused
cardboardbox?Youwerelucky

ArmleyWhite wrote:
cardboardbox?Youwerelucky wrote:
Just get one of those Carslberg pouring systems (beer dispensers or whatever the fuck they are called  Twisted Evil ) - absolutely un believeable - my brother has one and it pours exactly the same as a pint in the pub - superbly chilled, smooth...... (*sits back in chair and does homer simpson thinking about duff beer impression argurugrugrgru.....with tongue hanging out)


Yeah, but those things are just the same asa big can aint they, just more in it.  Nowt buggered about with in terms of extra fizz / smooth or whatever!  I think their a tad expensive, but thats the only reason I wouldn't buy one!


Armley - they are completely different from canned lager / beer - it really is like having a draught pint for you - absolutely 100% worth there money - only reason I haven't got one is I would be an alcoholic espeically after a week like we have just had - the lager doesn't bloat you its just smooooooooooooth

They are quite expensive and the refill "bags" are only reasonably priced and there is a limited number of suppliers (carlsberg / heineken / Becks)

Or are you thinking of the "kegs" that you can get these days ? Like the Heineken ones? I am talking about the £100+ drinks system like this one -


NOT

raveydavey

From Wikipedia:

A can of beer is pressurised by adding liquid nitrogen, which vaporises and expands in volume after the can is sealed, forcing gas and beer into the widget's hollow interior through a tiny hole—the less beer the better for subsequent head quality. In addition, some nitrogen dissolves in the beer which also contains dissolved carbon dioxide.

The presence of dissolved nitrogen allows smaller bubbles to be formed with consequent greater creaminess of the subsequent head. This is because the smaller bubbles need a higher internal pressure to balance the greater surface tension, which is inversely proportional to the radius of the bubbles. Achieving this higher pressure is not possible just with dissolved carbon dioxide because of the greater solubility of this gas compared to nitrogen would create an unacceptably large head.

When the can is opened, the pressure in the can quickly drops, causing the pressurised gas and beer inside the widget to jet out from the hole. This agitation on the surrounding beer causes a chain reaction of bubble formation throughout the beer. The result, when the can is then poured out, is a surging mixture in the glass of very small gas bubbles and liquid.

This is the case with certain types of draught beer such as draught stouts. In the case of these draught beers, which before dispensing also contain a mixture of dissolved nitrogen and carbon dioxide, the agitation is caused by forcing the beer under pressure through small holes in a restrictor in the tap. The surging mixture gradually settles to produce a very creamy head.

Full article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widget_%28beer%29

Can't say I'm impressed with it and I don't like "smooth" (or "dead") beer either. Give me a decent pint of proper bitter any day (Taylors Landlord, Abbot Ale, Black Sheep, etc)
Garp

30 Mill wrote:
Or an England Football team in Euro 2008???
Shocked  Very Happy
30 Mill

I tried that Heini shit beer dispenser and found out that the dispenser itself was by far the best thing about the whole idea - Disgusting beer - NO, its wrong to even call it beer - Disgusting shite

We're in a drought here, and I decided agaisnt watering to lawn with it in case the ground became toxic

Please delete photo above - causing unctrolled shuddering here
ArmleyWhite

Sorry Boxy, I didn't realise you were on about the expensive one, I thought you were on about the keg.
kevin177

Well inspired by this thread i tried the Kronenbourg last night and found it to be quite refreshing and no tinge of any sort of hangover this morning.
It went down smoothly as advertised and well pleased with it.
ArmleyWhite

One word, well several actually!  I think beer drinking is 100% subjective to the poster.  Whats one mans necter is anothers poison.
Garp

He.....^^^^^^.....Makes fair point
raveydavey

ArmleyWhite wrote:
One word, well several actually!  I think beer drinking is 100% subjective to the poster.  Whats one mans necter is anothers poison.


Indeed. I've bought lager today simply because it's too hot to be drinking bitter.  Exclamation
wewantourdarbyback

raveydavey wrote:
ArmleyWhite wrote:
One word, well several actually!  I think beer drinking is 100% subjective to the poster.  Whats one mans necter is anothers poison.


Indeed. I've bought lager today simply because it's too hot to be drinking bitter.  Exclamation
I bought Lager yesterday purely because..... well.... i wanted some Carling
Gopher

Re: Lager with widgets.

raveydavey wrote:
Regular readers will know I'm a bitter man, but have you noticed you can now get lager with a widget in the can - like you've been able to do with "smooth" bitter for ages?

Fosters and Kronenbourg, two exotic foreign sounding tipples brewed in Tadcaster under licence are the first two brands to take the plunge.

Apparently the "smaller bubbles" make for a smoother drink.
Having tried the Kronenbourg, I have to say that I'm less than impressed - the standard stuff seems better to me...




I`m sticking with meths. No widgets needed.  Cool
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