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| Tommo |
Arbitration ruling.......not being made public til end of may!!!!!Hearing result |
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| Baldy |
Now that is a disgrace 
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| cardboardbox?Youwerelucky |
How the fuck does that work then????????????????????????????
Utter bollocks |
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| Tommo |
In his interview on SSN Gary Mac said outcome will be known on Saturday so I dunno, there is that much crap going round difficult to know who to believe   
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| raveydavey |
I can't see how they can delay announcing the result until after the end of the season. That makes no sense at all. | ||
| 30 Mill |
Read what it says!!!!
Ruling will be given BEFORE the end of the football season (which is in May!!) So it could be this evening or any time BEFORE the end of the season |
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| Tommo |
I hate this waiting about to see what happens 
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| Tommo |
Other Leeds sites are saying that there will be a delay in arbitration result being made public!! Can't find it written anywhere and was supposedly mentioned on Look North tonight!!!! | ||
| raveydavey |
There is talk of the hearing finishing tomorrow (Friday) with the result not being announced until next week.
I've also heard whispers that Millwall have asked that the decision is not announced until after we play them, in case of a backlash if the decision isn't a popular one... |
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| HarryofOz |
There are various web stories about Millwall's request. Latest from the YEP is that the arbitration hearing will extend into next week (Monday).
From the YEP |
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| Tommo |
Nothing mentioned on Sky Sports News as yet!! | ||
| 30 Mill |
To be fair, I think Milwalls request is a legitimate one
Then again I think Leeds request to get 15 points back is even more legitimate One lad on the Leeds e-mail list came up with a horrendous outcome: - Arbitration agrees with Leeds, the 15 point penalty was wrong - Due to the state of the league it would be unfair to change the results - Leeds are offered some cash incentive instead (All based of the WHU, Blunts affair last year) |
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| Tanhilltimmy |
Due to the state of the league it would be unfair to change the results So we get the 15 points back and the table reflects the results. |
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| Benlufc |
YEP reporting will take an extra day. one of the people on the pannel was adament on it finishing today (friday). so me thinks someones put a spanner in the works or the pannel think we have a real case on and the football leauge are bricking it. | ||
| HarryofOz |
I reckon the longer it lasts the more likely the decision could go in our favour. | ||
| Benlufc |
exactly what im thinking. i recon at the start the pannel was in FL's favour but me must have a case if there going for another day. |
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| HarryofOz |
Decision to be announced by May 1st according to the LUFC site | ||
| BillH |
The whole thing has been a mess throughout. Regardless of how the decision pans out it will make a mockery of the league this season, and to top it all the fraudster who started it all will come out smelling of roses.
If the points are given back a highly fraudulent administration process will go unpunished and the league will be devalued by having the goalposts moved at the death. No doubt some if not all of the teams affected will instigate legal action of their own which could well drag out the entire issue into another summer of uncertainty. If the points are not given back a corrupt "disciplinary" voting process is upheld - where a third of the "jury" is allowed to vote according to their vested interest rather than on the basis of the evidence. Leeds Utd will possibly remain in this division despite their results and a precedent will be set where all teams breaching the same rule (such as Luton or Bournemouth) will also have to start the following season with the same deficit). As a Leeds fan I want us to be promoted, and if it comes via arbitration so be it, but I can't help feeling that football as a sport is damaged by the whole episode regardless of how the decision goes. Victory without honour or an unjust defeat... what a depressing choice! |
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| raveydavey |
Stated on Calendar (local news) tonight that the decision will not be announced until "the 1st of May".
They went on to say that most of the teams above us have threatened the league with legal action if we get the points back. I'm starting to dread a fudge of the finest order. |
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| NE1 |
as stated elsewhere the decision that they come to is to have far reaching effects on football. It not just about the FL V Leeds United because other teams are waiting in the wings (Luton, Bournemouth) and many more we don't know about yet.
If the decision they make is based on the points we do or don't need then that is an equally stupid decision. The only just decision is 15 pts returned and all the other teams know that if they let their heads rule their hearts for a change. |
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| 30 Mill |
Actually you dont know that for sure Leeds and everyone else is "fine" with the 10 point penalties Only Leeds are challenging the -15, based on the CVA. neither Luton nor Bournemouth have reached that staged - if indeed they ever do |
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| NE1 |
That's because the ten points reduction is in the rules. Leicester, who was the club who found the admin loophole in the first place, were never docked 10 points because at that time it wasn't in the rules. The 15pts reduction, likewise wasn't in the rules, and therefore unjust. However from now on there will be something in the rules and said points reduction will be just. Now both Luton & Bournemouth have had the CVA opposed by the taxman, so if/when they get to that stage, in will come the punishment. Now they both voted for our reduction .........turkeys.......christmas..........
the implications are all very interesting. However, I do not think a points reduction goes anyway towards helping those who are already in dire trouble, but thats another argument
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| NE1 |
this man needs to get his facts straight before he opens his mouth
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/doncaster/7352017.stm
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| Mort |
Still think there'll be a fudge along the lines of a few points back to confirm our play-off place, while not giving us too much hope of auto promotion. Given that the play off places are all but confirmed, no other team would be too much put out by this and the league would save some face.
Even if they gave us all the points back, the only team that could really be said to be affected would be Carlisle, losing out on auto promotion as it stands. Another point: How can it be valid that coming OUT of administration is a worse crime than going into administration in the first place! (this I think is how they might try to justify a partial return of points). |
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| NE1 |
Mort, they also have to think laterally.
The punishment metted out for us will the be the punishment for all future clubs who can't exit admin without a CVA in place, and we already know that the taxman will oppose any CVA in place. |
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| Mort |
Agree with that, too - your earlier comments about turkeys and Christmas couldn't be more appropriate to that vote at the beginning of the season - both short-sighted and greedy from a lot of the chairmen whose clubs are (or will soon be) in a similar position to ours. Wonder how they'd vote now? |
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| cardboardbox?Youwerelucky |
I wonder if the irony would be lost on Bates if he is given points back that make absolutely no difference to his teams positions and play off place
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