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raveydavey
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Are you stumped over your trivia?
Have you got a burning question that needs an answer?
No matter how obscure, somebody, somewhere will know who, why, what or where.
Ask EL and your fellow posters can provide the solution, possibly.
Here's my question: Who's first?
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Okay - serious(ish) question that has bugged me
Where does the phrase "oops a daisy" or "whoops a daisy" originate from?? |
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raveydavey
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| cardboardbox?Youwerelucky wrote: | Okay - serious(ish) question that has bugged me
Where does the phrase "oops a daisy" or "whoops a daisy" originate from?? |
Ups-a-daisy
Meaning
An exclamation made when encouraging a child to get up after a fall or when lifting a child into the air.
Origin
It is difficult to choose which of the numerous variants of the expression to use as the heading of this piece. As with many words that are said to small children, it is more often a spoken term than one that appears in print and this has led to much inconsistency about how it is spelled. In fact, I can't think of a single term that appears in so many different spellings. For example:
Upsidaisy
Upsa daesy
Upsy-daisy
Oops-a-daisy
Oopsy-daisy
Hoops-a-daisy
The form in which it is now most commonly spoken and spelled is 'oops-a-daisy'. The first known printed record of any form of the term is in Clough Robinson's The dialect of Leeds and its neighbourhood, 1862:
Upsa daesy! a common ejaculation  when a child, in play, is assisted in a spring-leap from the ground.
This was preceded by 'up-a-daisy', which has its own variations of spelling - 'up-a-dazy', 'up-a-daisey', etc. Jonathan Swift used this in his collection of letters, which was published in 1711 as The Journal to Stella:
Come stand away, let me rise... Is there a good fire? - So - up a-dazy.
The earlier dialect term 'upaday', which has the same meaning, appears to be the source. The 'daisy' part is a fanciful extension of 'day', perhaps alluding to the child being on the ground amongst the daisies. Of course, the name daisy itself derives from 'day' - the flower, which closes at night and exposes its yellow centre in sunlight, was thought of as the day's eye.
Not content with spawning so many forms, ups-a-daisy also has a role in the coining of the word 'lackadaisical'. This first appears in the language in 1768 and can be traced backwards to 'alack-the-day', which dates to at least Shakespeare's usage of it in Romeo and Juliet, 1592:
Shee's dead, deceast, shee's dead: alacke the day!
In the next century, this mutated to the more familiar form 'lack-a-day', which is found in The Grounds & Occasions of the Contempt of the Clergy and Religion, by John Eachard, 1685:
'Lack a day! says one of the accomplish'd, in what a lamentable condition I have seen a mortal Clergyman.
In the middle of the next century we find 'lack-a-daisy', in Tobias Smollett's The Adventures of Roderick Random 1748:
Good lack-a-daisy! the rogue is fled!
This is a form of 'lack-a-day' with the ending taken from 'ups-a-daisy'. From 'lack-a-daisy', it isn't a long step, either in time or language, to 'lackadaisical', which is first recorded in Laurence Sterne's A sentimental journey through France and Italy, 1768:
Sitting in my black coat, and in my lack-adaysical manner, counting the throbs of it.
'Ups-a-daisy' is clearly also the direct source of 'whoops-a-daisy'. This has a different meaning and is an exclamation made after a stumble or other mistake. It is usually said by the perpetrator of the error and the saying out loud is a public acknowledgement, somewhat like 'mea culpa'. 'Whoops-a-daisy', and the shortened forms 'whoops' and 'oops', are all American in origin. The expression is first recorded, as 'Whoopsie Daisy!', in the New Yorker, in September 1925.
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| halfaperson wrote: | | What's happened to Embrace? |
Embrace are an English rock band from Brighouse, West Yorkshire. To date they have released five studio albums, one singles album and one b-sides compilation. The band consist of brothers singer Danny McNamara and guitarist Richard McNamara, bassist Steve Firth, keyboardist Mickey Dale, and drummer Mike Heaton. The group have released five studio albums – The Good Will Out (1998), Drawn from Memory (2000), If You've Never Been (2001), Out Of Nothing (2004) and This New Day (2006) – with a sixth album in the works, expected to be released sometime in 2009 or 2010.
In March 2006, Embrace were chosen to record England's official football World Cup 2006 song (usually the kiss of death), "World At Your Feet," which received its first radio play on 21 April 2006 on BBC Radio 1, to a generally poor reception among football fans, but to an overall positive reception from music critics. It was released on 5 June 2006 and entered the UK singles charts at #3 despite selling more copies than Nature's Law.
Danny McNamara and Steve Firth are both fans of Leeds United.
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Oh, alright, cheers.
Where have all the bumble bees gone then?
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| halfaperson wrote: | Oh, alright, cheers.
Where have all the bumble bees gone then? |
http://vanishingbees.co.uk/
Bee populations across the globe are severely declining.
In the UK, around one fifth of honeybee hives were lost in the winter of 2007/08. Bees pollinate a third of the food we eat, and this contributes £200million a year to the UK economy.
The investigators are exploring a range of possibilities to explain the losses, which they are calling "colony collapse disorder". These include viruses, a fungus and poor bee nutrition.
They are also studying pesticides banned in some European countries to see if they are affecting the bees' innate ability to navigate their way back to their hives.
In some cases, bees are being raised to survive a shorter offseason, to be ready to pollinate once the almond bloom begins in February. This could have lowered their immunity to viruses.
Mites have also damaged bee colonies, and the insecticides used to try to kill them are harming the ability of queen bees to spawn as many workers.
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| Wow, genuine thanks for that ravey, very interesting. I also think there are a lot of domestic cultivated garden plants that are deliberately bred sterile, ie no pollen, in order to get the extravagant colours. No one seems to want the true species of say Geraniums and Foxgloves as they are unfashionable but it is a fact that these are the species bees prefer.
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What purpose do wasps serve? Twatting things  |
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| Mort wrote: | | cardboardbox?Youwerelucky wrote: | | What purpose do wasps serve? Twatting things |
Eat flies and other pests!
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Prefer the flies and other pests thanks |
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Where is NE1 these days ? ive googled it as well but they were no help.
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